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+> > instead of having to create a lambda function. +> > Wouldn't it make sense to have that in Python too? Do there come +> > more such opportunities into your mind? + +[Peter Schneider-Kamp] +> If I get you right you intend this to mean: +> +> map(replace, ["abc", "cde"], ["c"]*2, ["C"]*2) +> +> So basically your proposal is to reuse map parameters +> which are no sequences in every iteration over the +> parameters who are, + +It's hard to tell for sure, but that was my guess too. In array languages, +this kind of thing is ubiquitous and is often called "scalar broadcast" +(where a scalar is any atomic value (as opposed to an array), and is +"broadcast" to every position of the arrays in which it's combined via some +operation). + +There was a long debate about this a few years ago on c.l.py, where I +championed scalar broadcast in map specifically. It collapsed under its own +hideous weight when-- as such things always do <wink> --that originally +modest goal got hijacked by people seeking to extend the semantics to every +corner of the language. That won't happen. + +> ... +> But how would you decide if "abc" is a sequence parameter +> or not? + +That is a problem! Kinda. Mostly people want to broadcast numbers (as in +Franz's original example), and there's no problem there. A cheap workaround +for sequences that are desired to be treated as scalars would have been to +introduce a new builtin scalar() function, that simply hid the +"sequenceness" of its argument from map. + +Note that the listcomps in 2.0 make scalar broadcast much easier to spell; +e.g. + + [replace(x, "c", "C") for x in ("abc", "cde")] + [x**2 + 5 for x in L] + +So the better solution is not to extend map, but to forget it <0.9 wink>. + +a-life-strategy-of-universal-applicability-ly y'rs - tim + + +-- +http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list + +-----Multi-Part-Report-Level-1-1-13166-- + + |