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<P>
-These variables, grouped under the general list personality section,
-control some public information about the mailing list.
+This section controls what happens to the <span class="mailheader">Reply-To:</span>
+headers of messages posted through your list.
<P>
-<DL>
-<DT><STRONG>real_name</STRONG></DT>
-<DD>Every mailing list has both a <i>posting name</i> and a <i>real
- name</i>. The posting name shows up in urls and in email addresses,
- e.g. the <code>mylist</code> in <code>mylist@example.com</code>. The posting
- name is always presented in lower case, with alphanumeric
- characters and no spaces. The list's real name is used in some
- public information and email responses, such as in the general
- list overview. The real name can differ from the posting name by
- case only. For example, if the posting name is <code>mylist</code>, the
- real name can be <code>Posting</code>.
+Beware! <span class="mailheader">Reply-To:</span> munging is considered a religious issue
+and the policies you set here can ignite some of the most heated
+off-topic flame wars on your mailing lists. We'll try to stay as
+agnostic as possible, but our biases may still peak through.
<P>
-</DD>
-<DT><STRONG>owner</STRONG></DT>
-<DD>This variable contains a list of email addresses, one address per
- line, of the list owners. These addresses are used whenever the
- list owners need to be contacted, either by the system or by end
- users. Often, these addresses are used in combination with the
- <code>moderator</code> addresses (see below).
+<span class="mailheader">Reply-To:</span> is a header that is commonly used to redirect
+replies to messages. Exactly what happens when your uses reply to
+such a message depends on the mail readers your users use, and what
+functions they provide. Usually, there is both a ``reply to sender''
+button and a ``reply to all'' button. If people use these buttons
+correctly, you will probably never need to munge
+<span class="mailheader">Reply-To:</span>, so the default values should be fine.
<P>
-</DD>
-<DT><STRONG>moderator</STRONG></DT>
-<DD>This variable contains a list of email addresses, one address per
- line, of the list moderators. These addresses are often used in
- combination with the <code>owner</code> addresses. For example, when
- you email <code>mylist-owner@example.com</code>, both the owner and
- moderator addresses will receive a copy of the message.
+Since an informed decision is always best, here are links to two
+articles that discuss the opposing viewpoints in great detail:
<P>
-</DD>
-<DT><STRONG>description</STRONG></DT>
-<DD>In the general list overview page, which shows you every available
- mailing list, each list is displayed with a short description.
- The contents of this variable is that description. Note that in
- emails from the mailing list, this description is also used in the
- comment section of the <span class="mailheader">To:</span> address. This text should
- be relatively short and no longer than one line.
+
+<UL>
+<LI><a class="ulink" href="http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html"
+ >Reply-To Munging Considered
+ Harmful</a>
+</LI>
+<LI><a class="ulink" href="http://www.metasystema.org/essays/reply-to-useful.mhtml"
+ >Reply-To Munging Considered
+ Useful</a>
<P>
-</DD>
-<DT><STRONG>info</STRONG></DT>
-<DD>This variable contains a longer description of the mailing list.
- It is included at the top of the list's information page, and it
- can contain HTML. However, blank lines will be automatically
- converted into paragraph breaks. Preview your HTML though,
- because unclosed or invalid HTML can prevent display of parts of
- the list information page.
+</LI>
+</UL>
<P>
-</DD>
-<DT><STRONG>subject_prefix</STRONG></DT>
-<DD>This is a string that will be prepended to the
- <span class="mailheader">Subject:</span> header of any message posted to the list.
- For example, if a message is posted to the list with a
- <span class="mailheader">Subject:</span> like:
+The three options in this section work together to provide enough
+flexibility to do whatever <span class="mailheader">Reply-To:</span> munging you might
+(misguidingly :) feel you need to do.
<P>
-<dl><dd><pre class="verbatim">
- Subject: This is a message
-</pre></dl>
+<DL>
+<DT><STRONG>first_strip_reply_to</STRONG></DT>
+<DD>This variable controls whether any <span class="mailheader">Reply-To:</span> header
+ already present in the posted message should get removed before
+ any other munging occurs. Stripping this header will be done
+ regardless of whether or not Mailman will add its own
+ <span class="mailheader">Reply-To:</span> header to the message.
<P>
-and the <code>subject_prefix</code> is <code>[My List] </code> (note the
- trailing space!), then the message will be received like so:
+If this option is set to <em>No</em>, then any existing
+ <span class="mailheader">Reply-To:</span> header will be retained in the posted
+ message. If Mailman adds its own header, it will contain
+ addresses which are the union of the original header and the
+ Mailman added addresses. The mail standards specify that a
+ message may only have one <span class="mailheader">Reply-To:</span> header, but that
+ that header may contain multiple addresses.
<P>
-<dl><dd><pre class="verbatim">
- Subject: [My List] This is a message
-</pre></dl>
+</DD>
+<DT><STRONG>reply_goes_to_list</STRONG></DT>
+<DD>This variable controls whether Mailman will add its own
+ <span class="mailheader">Reply-To:</span> header, and if so, what the value of that
+ header will be (not counting original header stripping - see
+ above).
+
+<P>
+When you set this variable to <em>Poster</em>, no additional
+ <span class="mailheader">Reply-To:</span> header will be added by Mailman. This
+ setting is strongly recommended.
<P>
-If you leave <code>subject_prefix</code> empty, no prefix will be added
- to the <span class="mailheader">Subject:</span>. Mailman is careful not to add a
- prefix when the header already has one, as is the case in replies
- for example. The prefix can also contain characters in the list's
- preferred language. In this case, because of vagarities of the
- email standards, you may or may not want to add a trailing space.
+When you set this variable to <em>This list</em>, a
+ <span class="mailheader">Reply-To:</span> header pointing back to your list's posting
+ address will be added.
+
+<P>
+When you set this variable to <em>Explicit address</em>, the value
+ of the variable <code>reply_to_address</code> (see below) will be
+ added. Note that this is one situation where
+ <span class="mailheader">Reply-To:</span> munging may have a legitimate purpose. Say
+ you have two lists at your site, an announce list and a discussion
+ list. The announce list might allow postings only from a small
+ number of approved users; the general list membership probably
+ can't post to this list. But you want to allow comments on
+ announcements to be posted to the general discussion list by any
+ list member. In this case, you can set the <span class="mailheader">Reply-To:</span>
+ header for the announce list to point to the discussion list's
+ posting address.
<P>
</DD>
-<DT><STRONG>anonymous_list</STRONG></DT>
-<DD>This variable allows you to turn on some simple anonymizing
- features of Mailman. When you set this option to <i>Yes</i>,
- Mailman will remove or replace the <span class="mailheader">From:</span>,
- <span class="mailheader">Sender:</span>, and <span class="mailheader">Reply-To:</span> fields of any
- message posted to the list.
-
-<P>
-Note that this option is simply an aid for anonymization, it
- doesn't guarantee it. For example, a poster's identity could be
- evident in their signature, or in other mail headers, or even in
- the style of the content of the message. There's little Mailman
- can do about this kind of identity leakage.
+<DT><STRONG>reply_to_address</STRONG></DT>
+<DD>This is the address that will be added in the
+ <span class="mailheader">Reply-To:</span> header if <code>reply_goes_to_list</code> is set
+ to <em>Explicit address</em>.
+
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