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+Mailman - The GNU Mailing List Management System
+Copyright (C) 1998,1999,2000,2001,2002 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc.
+59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA
+
+QMAIL ISSUES
+
+There are some issues that users of the qmail mail transport agent
+have encountered. None of the core maintainers use qmail, so all of
+this information has been contributed by the Mailman user community,
+especially Martin Preishuber and Christian Tismer, with notes by
+Balazs Nagy (BN) and Norbert Bollow (NB).
+
+- You might need to set the mail-gid user to either "qmail", "mailman", or
+ "nofiles" by using the --with-mail-gid configure option.
+
+ BN: it highly depends on your mail storing policy. For example if
+ you use the simple ~alias/.qmail-* files, you can use `id -g alias`.
+ But if you use /var/qmail/users, the specified mail gid can be
+ used.
+
+ If you are going to be directing virtual domains directly to the
+ "mailman" user (using "virtualdomains" on a list-only domain, for
+ example), you will have to use --with-mail-gid=<gid of mailman user's group>
+ This is incompatible with having list aliases in ~alias, unless that alias
+ simply forwards to "mailman-listname*".
+
+- If there is a user `mailman' on your system, the alias
+ `mailman-owner' will work only in ~mailman. You have to do a "touch
+ .qmail-owner" in ~mailman directory to create this alias.
+
+ NB: An alternative, IMHO better solution is to `chown root
+ ~mailman', that will stop qmail from considering `mailman' to be a
+ user to whom mail can be delivered. (See `man 8 qmail-getpw'.)
+
+- In a related issue, if you have any users with the same name as one
+ of your mailing lists, you will have problems if list names contain
+ `-' in them. Putting .qmail redirections into the user's home
+ directory doesn't work because the Mailman wrappers will not get
+ spawned with the proper GID. The solution is to put the following
+ lines in the /var/qmail/users/assign file:
+
+ +zope-:alias:112:11:/var/qmail/alias:-:zope-:
+ .
+
+ where in this case the listname is e.g. zope-users.
+
+ NB: Alternatively, you could host the lists on a virtual domain, and
+ use the /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains file to put the mailman
+ user in charge of this virtual domain.
+
+- BN: If inbound messages are delivered by another user than mailman,
+ it's necessary to allow it to access ~mailman. Be sure that
+ ~mailman has group writing access and setgid bit is set. Then put
+ the delivering user to mailman group, and you can deny access to
+ ~mailman to others. Be sure that you can do the same with the WWW
+ service.
+
+ By the way the best thing is to make a virtual mail server to handle
+ all of the mail. NB: E.g. make an additional "A" DNS record for the
+ virtual mailserver pointing to your IP address, add the line
+ `lists.kva.hu:mailman' to /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains and a
+ `lists.kva.hu' line to /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts file. Don't
+ forget to HUP the qmail-send after modifying "virtualdomains". Then
+ every mail to lists.kva.hu will arrive to mail.kva.hu's mailman
+ user.
+
+ Then make your aliases:
+ .qmail => mailman@...'s letters
+ .qmail-owner => mailman-owner's letters
+
+
+ For list aliases, you can either create them manually:
+ .qmail-list => posts to the 'list' list
+ .qmail-list-admin => posts to the 'list's owner
+ .qmail-list-request => requests to 'list'
+ etc
+
+ or for automatic list alias handling (when using the lists.kva.hu virtual
+ as above), see "contrib/qmail-to-mailman.py" in the Mailman distribution.
+ Modify the "~mailman/.qmail-default" to include:
+
+ |/path/to/python /path/to/qmail-to-mailman.py
+
+ and new lists will automatically be picked up.
+
+- You have to make sure that the localhost can relay. If you start
+ qmail via inetd and tcpenv, you need some line the following in your
+ /etc/hosts.allow file:
+
+ tcp-env: 127. 10.205.200 : setenv RELAYCLIENT
+
+ where 10.205.200. is your IP address block. If you use tcpserver, then you
+ need something like the following in your /etc/tcp.smtp file:
+
+ 10.205.200.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
+ 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
+
+- BN: Bigger /var/qmail/control/concurrencyremote values work better
+ sending outbound messages, within reason. Unless you know your system
+ can handle it (many if not most cannot) this should not be set to a value
+ greater than 120.
+
+- More information about setting up qmail and relaying can be found in
+ the qmail documentation.
+
+BN: Last but not least, here's a little script to generate aliases to
+your lists (if for some reason you can/will not have them
+automatically picked up using "contrib/qmail-to-mailman.py"):
+
+This script is for the Mailman 2.0 series:
+#!/bin/sh
+if [ $# = 1 ]; then
+ i=$1
+ echo Making links to $i in the current directory...
+ echo "|preline /home/mailman/mail/mailman post $i" > .qmail-$i
+ echo "|preline /home/mailman/mail/mailman mailowner $i" > .qmail-$i-admin
+ echo "|preline /home/mailman/mail/mailman mailowner $i" > .qmail-$i-owner
+ echo "|preline /home/mailman/mail/mailman mailowner $i" > .qmail-owner-$i
+ echo "|preline /home/mailman/mail/mailman mailcmd $i" > .qmail-$i-request
+fi
+
+This script is for the Mailman 2.1 series:
+Note: this is for a new Mailman 2.1 installation. Users upgrading from
+ Mailman 2.0 would most likely change /usr/local/mailman to
+ /home/mailman. If in doubt, refer to the --prefix option passed to
+ configure during compile time.
+
+#!/bin/sh
+if [ $# = 1 ]; then
+ i=$1
+ echo Making links to $i in the current directory...
+ echo "|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post $i" > .qmail-$i
+ echo "|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin $i" > .qmail-$i-admin
+ echo "|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces $i" > .qmail-$i-bounces
+ # The following line is for VERP
+ # echo "|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces $i" > .qmail-$i-bounces-default
+ echo "|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm $i" > .qmail-$i-confirm
+ echo "|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join $i" > .qmail-$i-join
+ echo "|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave $i" > .qmail-$i-leave
+ echo "|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner $i" > .qmail-$i-owner
+ echo "|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request $i" > .qmail-$i-request
+ echo "|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe $i" > .qmail-$i-subscribe
+ echo "|preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe $i" > .qmail-$i-unsubscribe
+fi
+
+INFORMATION ON VERP
+
+You will note in the alias generating script for 2.1 above, there is a
+line for VERP that has been commented out. If you are interested in VERP
+there are two options. The first option is to allow Mailman to do the
+VERP formatting. To activate this, uncomment that line and add the
+following lines to your mm_cfg.py file:
+
+VERP_FORMAT = '%(bounces)s-+%(mailbox)s=%(host)s'
+VERP_REGEXP = r'^(?P<bounces>.*?)-\+(?P<mailbox>[^=]+)=(?P<host>[^@]+)@.*$'
+
+The second option is a patch on SourceForge located at:
+
+http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=645513&group_id=103
+
+This patch currently needs more testing and might best be suitable for
+developers or people well familiar with qmail. Having said that, this
+patch is the more qmail-friendly approach resulting in large performance
+gains.
+
+VIRTUAL MAIL SERVER
+
+As mentioned in the ISSUES area for a virtual mail server, a patch under
+testing is located at:
+
+http://sf.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=621257&group_id=103&atid=300103
+
+Again, this patch is for people familiar with their qmail installation.
+
+MORE INFORMATION
+
+You might be interested in some information on modifying footers that
+Norbert Bollow has written about Mailman and qmail, available here:
+
+ http://mailman.cis.to/qmail-verh/
+
+
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